ugh good afternoon everyone uh 
today we are here to announce   two things first the relaxation of 
some of the public health orders   and secondly more financial supports for 
businesses and the arts and culture sector   last friday you'll recall that minister audrey 
gordon and as well as dr brent russon announced   that the current public health orders would be 
extended until tuesday february 8th to allow for   additional time to confirm the trend and the covet 
19 data and its impact on the health care system   we are seeing some positive trends in the 
data throughout the province indicating that   covid19 is starting to stabilize in our province 
as those trends continue i am pleased to announce   as of february 8th we will begin to lift some of 
the restrictions these new measures will remain in   effect for the period of two weeks until february 
22nd and new measures will take effect that will   include changes to gatherings and private 
residences retail restaurant license premises   capacity and museum and art gallery capacity 
as well as capacity for sporting events   i will now pass it over to dr russon who will 
fill us in on the details over to you thank   you thank you premier good afternoon brent russon 
manitoba's chief provincial public health officer   last week we announced an extension of 
those public health orders we had been   looking at modeling and looking at trends many 
of which were showing the peak or pending peak   or or plateau at the time we needed some more 
time to look at those at those trends so we   were encouraged at the time but uh weren't able to 
make a definitive call as this week as has passed   we see that many of those indicators continue 
to be stable or trending in the right direction   and so we are getting a better understanding 
of where we are in this in this wave so one   of those factors that we look at and one of the 
most important ones is the the strain on health   care system so we look at hospital admissions 
both hospital missions and icu admissions   those that are positive for covert 19 so these 
have been very important indicators we've broken   those down in the past as infectious and those 
considered recovered or non-infectious at the time   but what we see is as we have widespread 
transmission of omicron in the community   we see very significant numbers of people who 
are in hospital and test positive for covid   for so for public health as we look at   our need for restrictions and our path forward 
it's really important for us to understand   who's in hospital because of covet not in hospital 
incidentally related to to covet and so it's   we know that because omicron is so widespread 
we know that every person admitted to hospitals   tested for okran we're going to find out find 
people that were there for other reasons but   happen to test positive record for covet so when 
we look at hospitalizations when you look at   various ways of doing this through chart audits 
we see that about 60 percent of those that we   report that are admitted to hospital 
are there for reasons other than covet   so those are people that are found to be 
incidentally positive for covet so they   would be in hospital um for these reasons 
with or without covet so we're looking   about 40 percent of those that we report in 
hospital um are related to covid so this is uh   still all those people need care all 
those people that are admitted still   put that strain on our health care providers 
but it's important for us public health looks at   our the need for restrictions who is there for 
uh covet and um and so certainly we see that uh   uh that split where um in in some uh days up 
to about uh uh one third of them were there   for uh covet and so it certainly helps inform our 
modeling um and our path forward so when we look   at icu admissions in the same manner they that 
is flipped over we see that about two-thirds of   people or about 70 percent of people admitted 
to icu are there for covet so we see that that   trend that the majority of people who are covet 
positive and i see are actually there for covet   but about one one-third or there are four reasons 
other than uh their coveted infection um and so   it's certainly relevant uh to the way we look 
at our numbers um when we look at those icu   numbers again it's very important uh to 
highlight the importance of vaccination   we see the the benefits of vaccination 
still protecting against severe outcomes and why we're really pushing our way forward 
continues to be uh vaccinating as many manitobans   as we can so any manitoban who's eligible for any 
of the dose first second or third please get that   as soon as as possible so it's certainly been 
been a while since we've been able to consider   easing some of these public health restrictions 
and so based on from what we're seeing and   things like hospital admissions and case reports 
looking at absenteeism rates from different   sectors we do see it's very likely that we've 
hit a peak in in manitoba for case generation   we still see an icu some of that slowing trend 
but still upwards so we can move cautiously   at this point we all know that the public health 
measures were in place temporarily they're always   meant to be temporarily and meant to be in place 
for only as long and to the degree that they are   required so uh the place we're at right now 
we are recommending that uh new public health   orders take effect on tuesday february 
8th they'll be in effect for two weeks   um and so some of those details so loosening 
restrictions on private gatherings with more   people allowed to be together indoors and 
outdoors again with differential rules   based on vaccine status adjusting capacity 
limits at many public places so we're going   to maintain the proof of vaccine requirements 
at the places that they're required right now   we're going to maintain the 50 percent capacity 
limit where they are right now what we're going to   do is is lift that maximum cap we had these many 
of these places capped at 250 now we're going to   remove that cap so it's still going to be proof 
of vaccine wherever that was required to pass   still be 50 capacity wherever that was required 
in the past but removing that cap of 250 people   we've had that liquor sales to stop at 10 we're 
going to extend that to 12 a.m and as far as   sports uh we will allow tournaments again 
for indoor and outdoor sports and recreation   so over those two weeks we're going to continue to 
monitor those trends we know that the incubation   period for omicron is shorter and so our previous 
duration of restrictions were based on a much   longer incubation period so we feel that the 
two weeks is going to give us a better picture   of where we're at and again consider a a path to 
a further loosening of the restrictions we know   these are only in place uh temporarily so we still 
maintain the proof of vaccination requirements   but we continue to message to manitobans the 
importance of receiving those those vaccines as   soon as you become eligible so we know manitobans 
have largely stepped up and followed these rules   the majority vast majority manitobans 
have done their part and gotten vaccinated and we all know that our path forward must be one 
to continue to remove these public health orders   over time but in obviously a cautious manner so 
again humans have done the actions manitobans   have taken were once again in this place to start 
losing loosening our public health restrictions so   thanks uh to all manitobans for all of your hard 
work thanks to our healthcare workers who have   uh given up so much during these tough times 
and i'm going to pass it back to the premiere   thank you very much dr rusin and and while 
today's announcement will be welcome news to   to many manitobans we recognize that many 
businesses will still be impacted by restrictions   able to operate to their full capacity and that's 
why today we are also announcing an expansion to   the sector support program to help manitoba 
businesses and arts and culture organizations   through this challenging time the expansion 
will provide a second payment to businesses   that have been previously approved and affected by 
public health orders in place as of january 31st   expand eligibility under the program to include 
event rentals catering and photographers   and extend the pro the program intake 
period until february 28th of this year   often described as the first to close and last to 
open we recognize how difficult this time has been   for manitoba's vibrant arts and culture sector 
we are also allocating six million dollars in new   funding to the arts and culture sustainability 
program to support organizations in the sector   that are negatively impacted and affected by 
the covid19 public health order restrictions   moving forward we will consult we continue to 
consult with our public health officials and our   stakeholders as we move through this pandemic 
and continue to learn to live with this virus   assuming the cobit 19 data from manitoba 
continues along the path that is projected   we will for we will be in a position hopefully 
to further relax restrictions in the weeks   and months ahead situation permitting and based 
uh off of what the data is telling us at the time   we will be looking to remove a significant 
amount of capacity limits and restrictions   later this spring we hope to be in a position 
of relaxing nearly all restrictions and moving   to recommendations i want to thank the over 87 
percent of manitobans 18 and older who have been   immunized with at least two doses and to those 
who made the choice to protect the nearly 70   000 manitoba children with a dose of the vaccine 
to date our province has administered over 2.7   million doses of the vaccine we know that vaccines 
work i encourage manitobans to get their third   dose when eligible to recharge your immunity to 
covet 19.

Getting your third dose of the vaccine   decreases your risk of needing icu care by 139 
times compared to someone who is unvaccinated   i want to thank manitobans who have made 
personal professional and financial sacrifices   and have done their part by getting vaccinated and 
following the fundamentals i want to thank all of   our front line and essential service workers 
for helping to keep manitobans safe during   this pandemic i am confident we will get through 
this together thank you to all of those manitobans   and we're now open for questions madame premier we 
have the second highest death rate in the country   through to copenhagen right now we're averaging 
seven deaths a day we had seven more today how   do you reconcile that with what you just announced 
so um what i will say is that obviously we've been   working with public health to see and and look 
at ways that we can reduce the restrictions for   for those out there i think people are are ready 
to get back to some some normalcy as part of their   life when it comes to deaths and how they're 
reported and in comparison to other provinces   i think we are looking and i've asked for 
those numbers to see and those comparisons   across other provinces to see are the are we 
comparing apples to apples when it comes to this   and so you know we're obviously looking at 
that and you know but to all those manitobans   we know this has been an incredibly difficult 
time we know that there has been a loss of of   of loved ones and and what i would say 
is as well to manitobans you know that   we will get through this together it is a 
very challenging time what we want to do is   ensure though that that you know all manitobans 
will be able to have the access to health care   outside of just kobed but but other other things 
as well and we're obviously concerned about those   uh who are suffering from mental health and and 
other issues out there that we need to to focus   on as well so what do you say to the elderly uh 
disabled have immunocompromised manitobans who are   living in fear right now those are the ones living 
in fear not general society that they continue to   see this widespread omicron spring they continue 
to see yes it is milder on an individual basis but   you can even if you if you talk to medical experts 
they say we're underestimating covet deaths not   overestimating them as you just implied what 
do you say to the families and people who are   disabled and you know compromised now what i would 
say first and foremost is get vaccinated and make   sure you've gotten you're fully you're fully up 
to to being vaccinated and you get the extra dose   of the third dose as well um i think that you know 
obviously these are very very challenging times we   don't want people to be living in fear what we 
want to do is is create an environment here that   the manitobans don't have to live in fear you're 
suggesting those people aren't vaccinated is that   what you're saying no to the extent that 
they're not then then they should be but i   believe that most of them are but to their 
families and loved ones who may not be um   to to those people as well to encourage as 
many manitobans to get vaccinated as possible   the vaccination messaging that you often go to 
i appreciate that it's an important message but   i can ask you important what do you have to say 
to vaccinated people who are immunocompromised   elderly or disabled i would say that we've had uh 
you know restrictions in place to try and help um   you know with our hospital system i think what 
we're seeing and i'll ask brent to maybe comment   on this in terms of the number of people in in 
in hospital the hospitalization numbers and and   icu numbers that we've seen um you know plateau 
and uh i think that you know that's what the   restrictions were in place for as we're starting 
to see the movement towards the trend that we are   i think we're we're in a position to be able 
to um to reduce those restrictions so people   can get back to to living um living their lives 
how much of this was demanded by businesses and   i'm talking specifically about the removal of the 
250-person crowd we're now going to see thousands   of people in large venues like the downtown 
hockey arena and some uh casinos potentially   is is that not an additional risk and who who 
asked for that cap to be lifted so what i would   say is is that um certainly we are listening 
to those in the business community you recall   three four weeks ago when we extended uh the 
orders then and we extended it another week   businesses are constantly reaching out and giving 
us their perspective it's why we've announced   further supports for some 
of those businesses uh today   with respect to the orders uh that are before us 
today i'll ask uh brent as well to to comment on   these these are things that will work together 
that we work together with with public health on   yeah and so i mean this follows our typical 
approach to as when we were loosening restrictions   they we loosened them in the reverse order of what 
we put them on so we added these restrictions late   and you'll see and then those were the first now 
to to uh to be removed so it's pretty uh standard   approach that we've had for our cautious loosening 
of restrictions over time and despite the um you   know all the evidence we've seen is that if you're 
fully vaccinated and you're not immunocompromised   you the chance of having very severe outcomes for 
normal quantities is quite low but if you have a   large crowd you will get immunocompromised 
and people at risk in that crowd um are you   comfortable with allowing thousands of people in 
an area even if they have to be fully vaccinated   so i mean the the risk will never be zero right 
so people who are living with immune compromise   with severe medical conditions they've always 
been at risk of many different things they've   been at risk every respiratory virus season as 
well and and and uh if we see another variant or   you know who knows what covid will do next 
respiratory virus season people who are in   those conditions are you know are unfortunately 
at increased risk so um you know we've uh we have   a lot of measures still in place um so we do have 
proof of vaccine requirements we have uh masking   that will be required uh but yeah we'll never 
have a zero risk and then some you know people   will have to consider some of their own risks 
as well like in pre-pandemic times as well and   we were messaging this from the first wave of the 
pandemic that if you're at increased risk you need   to reconsider how much activities you uh you take 
place so even before we had our first restrictions   we always had that high risk messaging as 
well and and that that doesn't change the   reason manitoba hasn't gone with a two household 
bubble formula like some other provinces have   to limit that extended prolonged close indoor 
contact that we see in household gatherings   you know with the private gatherings i think 
every jurisdiction has struggled with what's the   the right way to do this right and it's a balance 
between one is um we want to limit contacts um but   we need to do so through messaging and through 
orders that are really difficult to enforce   and so what's the best way to do that what's the 
clear way of doing it do we say it's it's one   other bubble or two other bubbles what does that 
bubble make up uh or do we say a list a specific   number and so i think every every jurisdiction 
has struggled that we've considered it and   um and i think we've taken different approaches 
before i think it's just it's really challenging   to limit gatherings in the private residence 
uh it's it's important but i think most of   that relates to uh you know to our messaging 
um uh to to do whatever you can to reduce those   those gatherings and of course if you're at 
increased risk of severe outcomes then you need   to uh consider reducing those even more dr medical 
professionals have clapped back at this notion of   with kobit from coveting a lot of people yeah 
they're not there primarily because of coping but   covet is a systemic illness and it causes a lot 
and exacerbates other problems they also say that   there's a lot of people not getting medical care 
right now for all variety of reasons in the health   system because there is so many common infections 
even the ones that you classify a strict code so i   know you're not from the shared health system 
side here but how what do you say to those   doctors that say that really we're still really 
struggling in the healthcare system right now well   i think there's i mean there's certainly strained 
healthcare system for lots of reasons right as   they um we've seen absenteeism we've seen the 
strain over over two years there's backlogs and   things so so i mean there's no no doubt there is 
that strain do we use public health restrictions   and remove liberties solely based on on on that 
strain if the strain isn't entirely based on um   you know directly related to covid these are kind 
of those balancing that the challenge we have so   when you talk about the you know the roughly 60 of 
the hospital missions that we um announce each day   if they would be there either way they're 
there regardless of cover they just haven't   have coveted it's certainly not irrelevant 
certainly it's certainly relevant to how we   consider moving forward with our restrictions 
but no doubt is that in any way saying   to depict that there isn't a strain on the system 
but it's certainly relevant to us that you know 60   of the people there would be there regardless of 
kovitz so when we're looking at our restrictions   it's something we need to consider but but 
absolutely the message is not to say that there   isn't a strain on the health care system there's 
lots of reasons for that since you're appointed   premier have you gone to visit a hospital yourself 
in er and i see you to see it yourself firsthand trying to think if i have been in i guess 
uh not since i've been premier no i haven't   you know i i think it's out of respect for um you 
know for the for the public health orders and not   wanting to be in a position where i'm going in 
and potentially uh infecting uh further i think   uh you know we're certainly in discussions and i i 
rely on our minister of health um and uh you know   to to to reach out and in those circumstances 
i certainly am not opposed to going and doing   that it's basically been out of uh an abundance 
of caution i would say premiere in mid-december   we had around 381 million left in contingency for 
covid related things i know that we spent 22 on   on more business supports and i'm guessing that's 
what you're matching today so how much is left and   why not offer more to buy some more time yeah 
i mean you know certainly um you know we we   offer these programs out there and then we see 
what the what the uptake is and we try and and   and change them accordingly to ensure that we 
can offer more supports to as many manitobans   as we can and so what we have heard from the 
business community from the chambers and others   that they that they appreciate these supports uh 
to the extent that there's more that we can do i   think we are doing more we are reaching out now 
to the arts and culture sector uh there may be   uh some other supports that are needed down the 
road and we'll will gauge what those will be and   and um and uh take it from there for two more 
questions before we go to the phone doctor what   is our uh supply looking like for the treatments 
for people who uh like the monoclonal antibodies   yeah and so that was uh we originally received 
roughly 1100 treatment courses uh for pax levitt   the oral antiviral and so that is run through 
through shared health so details on on the   distribution thus far should should go 
over to them premier you've spoken up a   favor of vaccination your health ministers 
called yourself a vaccine ambassador   but not everybody in your caucus 
is acting like a vaccine ambassador   i'm just wondering what why is that and is 
there anything that you can do to encourage   your caucus to be more vaccine ambassadorial 
i don't know what the proper term is but   and and can you do that while maintaining your 
support in those areas of manitoba without   alienating people in winnipeg where most of the 
voters are who will see that your government gets   re-elected or not yeah i think what's really 
important is that as a government from day   one once the vaccines were released you know we 
we be we all became or you know became invest   ambassadors within government to ensure that that 
as many manitobans got vaccinated as possible   uh to the extent that those were in positions that 
you know were saying some things contrary to that   they've been removed from those positions we'll 
continue to have those discussions in caucus i   think it's very important that caucus members have 
the ability to represent their communities we have   a very diverse uh group of individuals within 
our caucus they have every right to represent   their constituencies those that that elected 
them and so we have those discussions in caucus carol we'll come back to the room after thanks thank you a reminder to our reporters on the 
line you will have one preliminary and one   follow-up question up first this afternoon 
from city news mike uh good afternoon mike   albanese from city news uh my question is 
with all the other loosenings of restrictions   um manitobans were able to look at tangible 
stats and see that infections were on a   downtrend that less people are testing positive 
but with the current restrictions to testing   we can't necessarily go and see how many people 
are infected with the virus a lot has to just go   on the word of public health officials so dr 
rusin what can you tell manitobans to make   them more comfortable with the fact that we are 
restricting while there could still be a lot of   virus in the province yeah well we know there is a 
lot of virus right and so if we thought that there   was really no risk we would loosen uh you know 
lift all the restrictions so but we're not we're   doing so in a very cautious manner we presented 
modeling last week that that shows where that   that that peak likely has been and and the uh the 
path forward we redid those models and they show   us the same thing this uh this uh week that we've 
uh very likely peaked in cases very likely peaked   in hospital emissions and are um either peaking 
or peaking soon regarding admissions to icu   we look at industries or sectors where there 
is uh much more frequent testing and look at   absenteeism rates and their test rates and we 
see those are all showing us a peak a week or   two ago so there's a number of indicators that 
we look at and we've actually we presented those   the the modeling last week so you're right things 
have have changed in the way we we look at things   because of the testing approach but we still 
have a number of indicators that we've presented thanks for that answer and with 
the loosening of restrictions i   know we're not pulling all restrictions 
right away but that does add variability   do our projected numbers our projected cases 
our projected future outcome does that not   go a little out the window when 
we start adding these variables in   as such as not a cap of 250 people at a hockey 
game could have tens of thousands so it's why we   you know continue to message uh many uh you know 
many of the factors you know the fundamentals that   we talk about why we move things very cautiously 
to see those effects um and because you're right   there is some unpredictability when we when we 
loosen certain measures there's just no way you   know around that and that's why we move cautiously 
and evaluate the effect before we loosen loosen   so i think again these measures the public health 
restrictions they have negative effects as well um   and so it's a matter of trying to to find that 
balance which is which is difficult but we feel   based on the modeling based on numbers we see this 
is a you know a pragmatic approach at this point from ctv winnipeg jeff oh hi uh hopefully 
you can hear me okay i have trouble getting   in i'm just wondering uh dr russon steve's 
already asked about it but um i i take it then   with the lifting of that cap uh i guess 
the jets can start having if they want   higher capacity limits that's correct yeah so 
so venues such as that sporting venues would be   proof of vaccine 50 capacity masking but 
there isn't a cap on the uh on the total   okay both yourself in the premier have 
have alluded to this but do you have a   timeline mapped out you know after the next two 
weeks of like other provinces have done like   here are some key dates for when we're going to 
start to loosen other restrictions do you have   kind of a map well certainly it's a thing that's 
we've we're always discussing you know the the   short-term and medium and long-term approaches 
to two things so we don't have specific dates um   and and it's really challenging to come up with 
a specific dates i think the message is that   given where we are we are right now 
if if we don't see anything unexpected   that we're looking at a restricting 
restriction free manitoba by spring from chvn taylor   hi good afternoon i'm looking at the health 
orders here and i see that for places of worship   there was quite a big uh jump in how many people 
could attend particularly uh without uh proof of   vaccination requirements can you tell me a little 
bit more about uh why you decided to do this well the uh so this is referring to the uh 
yeah yeah so we have it in places of worship   right now there's a 50 capacity with no cap 
similar to other other places they had a 25   capacity um or you know 25 people although 
they could get to 250 people if they cohorted   so at this measure we just loosen that 
remove the cohort requirements so it's   25 capacity or 250 whichever is 
lower but not the need to to cohort thanks and when you were 
making these orders uh what   did you hear from religious leaders about this yeah so you know with uh with public 
health again we've when we're loosening   uh restrictions we sort of just go in 
the um you know the reverse order of them   coming in so this is a very moderate modest uh 
loosening of these these restrictions so public   health hasn't engaged with with religious 
leaders at this point this is all about   a cautious reopening when we're just seeing our 
numbers starting to plateau so we only felt a very   cautious reopening at this point was warranted 
as well obviously we have a ministerial working   group that works very closely with stakeholders 
in the community uh including our faith-based   community as well so we're in constant contact 
with them about about the orders as well they   reach out from time to time we reach out to 
them and we as we do with all stakeholders from cjob skyler hi guys i know i asked you 
uh dr russon about this last week um just   looking for a little more context to some of 
these hospitalization numbers i know we have   you know around 1500 medical beds in the province 
uh maybe a couple hundred of them were open last   week if that and of course now you're providing 
the uh you know with or because of type data um   but in terms of context where does this um 
you know compared to say like 2019 2018 when   you know the hospitals were filling up slightly 
because of the flu obviously we're seeing way more   deaths because of covet 19 though just trying 
to put that hospital situation into a little   more context for people yeah and so i mean it's a 
good question i i think i'm going to let a shared   health answer any details of that there's a lot 
of context that we have to put in into place now   there's staffing issues right now 
that we didn't have say in 2018   there are issues on um you know delayed surgeries 
and and things of that so so it's not going to   be essentially and you know an apple's apples 
comparison on how many people were admitted this   time in 2018 compared to right now but the details 
of that i'll um allow shared health to answer okay i appreciate that and just as my follow-up 
you know we're looking at a potentially a   restriction free manitoba in just two or three 
months time a lot of people may not be comfortable   with that but it is the beginning of this clawing 
back of restriction kind of ushering in an era   where folks uh who are immunocompromised our 
elderly are at higher risk of some severe outcomes   uh need to take that responsibility into 
their own hands and it's not being put on   the general public with broader orders is that 
is that kind of the era we're going into now   well i mean i think that's the that's our 
pre-pandemic era right we we faced many   health challenges uh 
pre-pandemic we unfortunately saw   many deaths and severe outcomes every respiratory 
virus season and the majority of those occurred in   uh in unvaccinated uh people and and as well as 
people with many underlying conditions those who   are older those who are immune compromised so 
you know when speaking about this you can never never want to downplay the tragedy of all of 
these events but but moving forward we do have to   find ways out of these public health restrictions 
because we know we're always going to have   challenges on you know some of the sickest 
manitobans and so we definitely need to   find ways to protect them but it can't be 
to restrict the entire population forever   we've been at this for two years at some 
point we have to find a way out of that from cbc radio canada god love yes good afternoon uh good afternoon i 
just want to raise a concern about the   trackers uh with the premiere because um we 
know the truckers are coming back uh there   was a legislative assistant who was expelled 
because of his support to the truckers and now   those truckers are planning to have a sitting in 
front of the winnipeg legislature hello yes we can   hear you yeah yeah so uh they're planning to have 
a sitting in front of the winnipeg legislature uh   us from friday until you relax restrictions what 
will you do premiere please obviously we want to   ensure that everyone is is safe and i know that 
um on the legislative grounds that uh justice   will ensure that uh there's proper security 
in place to ensure the the safety of of all of   those individuals on the ground i do want to say 
that you know to our truckers they have allowed   us to be able to live through this pandemic they 
have allowed the supply chain to continue and   and have supplied us with our our food and our 
clothing to wear and so i think we should thank   them as essential service workers uh for what they 
do um you know i did send out a letter uh last   week i guess just explaining you know where i felt 
on on many of these issues i am concerned about   the mandate that the prime minister put in 
place because i am concerned about supply chain   issues and inflationary issues we had a different 
approach in manitoba when it came to you know our   provincial employees where we looked at mandat 
you know either get vaccinated or or get tested   there maybe is another way out of 
this to ensure that we can continue   that supply chain which is absolutely critical 
for not just manitobans but for canadians yes   but if i just have to follow up uh somebody we're 
asking whether there is a map we can follow after   january 22nd what will be what what is coming 
next you could see the part of population who is   supporting the the the truckers don't you think 
that some people are tired of the restrictions   is there anything are we going to lift more 
restrictions in the next weeks or the next month   well i'll start off with that and then hand 
it over to dr russon as well for his comments   i think he's already sort of stated that 
this is a cautious approach to to opening up   but obviously our end goal is to be able to 
remove all health public health restrictions   to ensure that manitobans can get back to living 
normal lives so we i think we all have the same   end goal in mind it's just that we need to take 
perhaps a cautious approach through this to ensure   um you know that our health care system 
is there for manitobans when they need it from the brandon's son karen uh good 
afternoon everyone and thank you for   for fielding these questions uh mine is 
more about enforcement because we have a   company here that was uh recently fined for uh 
refusing uh the masked mandate i just gotten   back from a meeting with them and um yeah 
just the general consensus from them and   allegedly from their customer base is that they're 
tired of this and but also looking at stats for   fines i see a lot more have been ticketed for a 
mask refusal or failing to comply so is this uh   uptick in the last 30 days because more people 
are refusing to wear their masks or is there   just more enforcement you know i i think it's uh 
it could be a combination of both i think people   are generally getting you know there's coveted 
fatigue out there i think we've all seen it   uh in our various communities and and we we all 
feel it and so but obviously when it comes to uh   enforcement i know that uh you know we have 
been tracking uh not just the ticketing side of   it but the warning side of it as well uh for for 
individuals as well so i know justice is starting   to to track those numbers as well i think what's 
important here today is that this is the start   of the loosening of restrictions we will be 
moving towards lifting all restrictions at some   point when it's safe to do so and uh i think that 
what we're asking for manitobans is just for for   patients through this um we're everyone's tired of 
of the restrictions everyone's tired of covid but   we need to ensure that we also take that balanced 
approach where it comes to you know making sure   that we are protecting our hospital system but 
also ensuring that manitobans can live their lives okay thank you for that and uh for 
my follow-up just related to that   a lot of people have been asking a lot of 
questions it's been more than two years a   lot of money has been poured into uh 
restrictions and funding for support they would like to know why 
their house hasn't their   uh exactly how much investment has been made 
for uh shoring up the health care system   yeah well you know every year we have increased 
the budget for for health care we have put special   supports in place through the covid pandemic as 
well and and will continue to do so obviously   we have a challenge with surgical and diagnostic 
backlogs we have set up a task force to develop   a plan to get us through that and we'll continue 
to work with them closely on that i know that's   top of mind for manitobans so there will be 
more investments that will be made over over   time in the province of manitoba on friday our 
council of federation uh is getting together and   meeting about this very issue with respect to the 
canada health transfer uh the federal government   is going to have to come to the table and work 
with us on this it's not something that uh matt   that provinces can and territories can shoulder 
alone we're all in this together and we're gonna   have to ensure that we work together on it so 
i appreciate uh your uh your question very much we now return to the news conference 
theater a few more questions in the   room thank you following up on guadalupe's 
question about the truckers and the quad boy   um one of the things that the mp bergen 
said in in the house was that she she said that the toppling of the statues and 
the defacing of the statues on canada here   she said that was you know equivalent to the 
protesters who were you know waving nazi flags and desecrating the the war memorial i'm just 
wondering do you think that that is a fair   equivalency to compare what happened on canada day 
here with statues and angry you know protesters   over the deaths the graves that were found at 
residential schools with um the scenes of the   symbols of hate that we saw on display out here 
in front of the building and in ottawa with the   convoy protest well we certainly understand 
um you know with with residential schools the   hardships that uh you know first nations have have 
uh have have gone through and we want to work with   them through reconciliation and ensure that we're 
helping them get through this very difficult time   i don't condone any kind of violent behavior 
anywhere at any time and i don't think and i i   believe at the time there were some first nations 
leaders who came out and said you know that that   we don't contone you know the behavior of of of um 
you know what what happened there and so you know   i i would i would agree with that uh but there's 
no question that we need to work very closely with   indigenous communities to help them heal through 
these very difficult times and that is of course   a priority that i have mentioned in our throne 
speech i mentioned it in my inaugural address   when i became premier um reconciliation is is 
a priority for our government that wasn't her   question you consider an equivalent to topple 
a colonial figure statue with showing a nazi   flag and i'll say it again i don't condone any 
violent behavior anywhere i don't think it's right   with respect you see it's equivalent i do not 
condone any violent behavior what's worse though   is one worse than the other do you think i believe 
that questions i've answered that question a   different question dr roosev premier when you had 
this plan to relax restrictions on tuesday what   response did you get from perry gray and the 
various specialty leads in the health system   well we have frequent uh discussions we uh uh 
dr gray is part of incident command structure   as well so we have various uh discussions um you 
know about about our approach about their planning   and so we don't you know discuss necessarily 
the the details of the response and they're and   they're varied well it's not a big detail i'm 
asking for did you get a thumbs up a neutral   a thumbs down like what was the general tip no 
it's not as simple as that right there's various   restrictions at various levels um there's 
uh you know we look at various scenarios   with the modeling and and we take in a number of 
considerations right so the their responsibility   is for the acute care system and the capacity 
within there we have a much broader responsibility   to overall health and manitobans and and and 
things so so it's not as simple as just um   thumbs up or thumbs down what happens a year 
from now if we look at the we won't really   get a real picture of this till we see excess 
death numbers through statscat in well into 2023   so a year from now are you confident that the 
approach you're taking right now is the right   approach knowing what that we will see excess 
death numbers next year well you know what we we   have to work with the with the numbers in front 
of us we know that there are um many aspects of   of health and and covet is one of them covet is a 
for the last two years has been a strong focus of   the health care system of public health but it's 
not the only factor related to health outcomes   so when we when we look at the risk of covid and 
talk about restrictions we really can't do that   thoroughly without looking at a thoroughly what 
the harms related to the restrictions were and so   these are very challenging things so i 
know that uh looking back in in retrospect   is going to be a lot easier than having to deal 
with it in in real time with small businesses on   the changes to capacity because if everybody's 
still at 50 but you lift the 250 maximum   that really benefits big venues and small venues 
really haven't changed if you're a licensed   premises or your bar restaurant that sort of thing 
so yeah what has changed there is actually moving   from 10 o'clock to midnight to allow them to 
be open longer as well we recognize obviously   that there are some hardships with those those 
restaurants and and and those tight in the bars   and those businesses and uh obviously that's why 
we're introducing further supports for them today   we recognize that these are challenging times 
thank you very much did you forget about that   not disclosing the disposal of your 
assets your housing minister in 2019   and last week when we asked well you know 
you had declared them as assets and then   after they were sold there was no disclosure or 
statement filed saying that you had disposed of   them you were housing mister at the time and 
nato housing they were taught there but there   were plans to devolve magical housing like can 
you explain how there would be an oversight like   how you can forget about 30 million dollars worth 
of assets being sold well first of all manchester   housing has nothing to do with this but secondly 
i did disclose the disposition of those assets   uh so they were disposed of the you know and they 
were declared in my conflict of interest uh forms   the next conflict of interest form that came that 
came about in my end and disclosed as well in my   meeting with the conflict of interest commissioner 
what uh the issue is that i didn't file the form   two i think it is within 30 days 
of the disposition of those assets   so to say that these assets the disposition of 
these assets was not disclosed is wrong it was   it wasn't they weren't it wasn't in the clerks it 
is it is in my conflict of interest forms and i it   wasn't for two years no it was it was absolutely 
um it was there because as i filed my new conflict   of interest form those assets were no longer 
there and i have my meeting with the conflict   of interest uh commissioner and why are 
those not there because they've been sold   right you know so are you required to file a 
statement saying that but that's the form two   which i said you know there was no form two last 
week and your office confirmed that well because   once it's already disclosed you can't go back 
and file another form it's already disclosed as wrong it was an oversight and it would be 
disclosed immediately doctor cereal do you want to   answer one more about modeling the way that people 
want you guys to go oh we can okay no problem you



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